Showing posts with label David Irving. Show all posts
Showing posts with label David Irving. Show all posts

Monday, November 26, 2007

HOLOCAUST DENIERS TO BE ATTACKED BY JEW HATERS?

Undercover police will mingle with students at Oxford University tonight after historian David Irving and the British National Party leader Nick Griffin were invited to take part in a debate there. Up to a thousand protesters are expected to gather when BNP leader Nick Griffin speaks alongside Irving, who was once jailed for denying the Holocaust, at the Oxford Union debating chamber. A possible riot is being speculated upon by the chattering classes!

Now I have several points to make;

1. Remember all those protesters in London who wore the "We are Hizbollah" t-shirts and waved such placards last summer when Israel defended itself against those Lebanese-based terrorists? Are these the same people who may go ape crazy when Griffin and Irving appear tonight? If so, isn't this a tad hypocritical? What is the difference between a Holocaust denier and those who demand Israel refrains from defending itself from the savages in Hezbollah?


2. As for Griffin, I'm not sure why he is sharing a stage with such a loathsome creature as Irving but I see little difference between Griffin and those such as George Galloway, the darling of the UK media for his anti-Western views. Why is there no outcry every time Galloway appears anywhere? Griffin is portrayed as the anti-Christ and the BNP as hellspawn. But the like of Galloway's Respect party, and groups such as the Muslim Council of Britain are somehow lauded for their views which seems a double standard to me!

3. Do you think that this debate should actually go ahead? I happen to think that there are many more interesting people the Oxford Union could have chosen to debate but I also believe that once invited, these two have the perfect right to attend and to be heard. Free speech must prevail.

I believe the UK MSM is furious that a party such as the BNP even exists - a party which by definition aligns itself with the national interest, as opposed to the EU interest. Since the media is full of left-wing self loathers, who worship at the shrine of the European Union, they instinctively lash out at Griffin and his BNP, and indirectly make them even more attractive to those British who wonder who will protect our ancient liberties.

UPDATE
A group of protesters broke through the security cordon and forced their way into the Oxford Union where BNP leader Nick Griffin and controversial historian David Irving were due to speak tonight.

The debate has now been postponed.

After pushing and shoving their way through the doors into the hall they staged a sit down protest at the debating table.

Scuffles erupted as the protesters tried to get into the building which had been surrounded by tight security ahead of tonight's event.

Friday, September 28, 2007

The Impeccable Conversion

What can we say?

The judge is Austrian, mein freunds.

Discredited Irving plans comeback tour

Ten months ago he was languishing in an Austrian jail, less than halfway through a three-year sentence with his career - and professional reputation - in tatters.

This week David Irving, the discredited British historian who was described by a high court judge as a Holocaust denier and a racist, says he is launching a comeback with a speaking tour of British cities and a series of new books. "I have kept a low profile for several months because I have had to sort out where to live and to address my financial situation," said Mr Irving, who was declared bankrupt in 2002 after an unsuccessful libel action over claims he was a Holocaust denier. "But now I am ready to start again."

Mr Irving's career has been littered with controversy, culminating with his arrest in Austria in 2005. He was sentenced to three years in jail after a judge ruled that two speeches he made in 1989, dismissing the Auschwitz gas chambers as a "fairy tale" and questioning the existence of extermination camps, breached Austrian law. His appeal was upheld, with the judge saying the crimes were a long time ago and that Mr Irving had undergone an "impeccable conversion".

However, drinking tea on the sofa of a 10-bedroom house he has begun renting near Windsor, Mr Irving says that his views on the Holocaust have crystallised rather than changed. He says that he believes the Jews were responsible for what happened to them during the second world war and that the "Jewish problem" was responsible for nearly all the wars of the past 100 years: "The Jews are the architects of their own misfortune, but that is the short version A-Z. Between A-Z there are then 24 other characters in intervening steps." Mr Irving was due to address a meeting in Coventry last Friday - although that event was disrupted by protesters - and held another meeting at his home on Saturday. He plans to speak in Halifax and Birmingham as well as at several unnamed universities.

Last night, news of his attempts to kickstart his career were met with disbelief and anger from Jewish groups and political opponents. Lord Foulkes, of the Labour Friends of Israel, said: "It is a frightening thought that he is still pursuing his agenda." Jon Benjamin, chief executive of the Board of Deputies, said Mr Irving no longer had any legitimate claim to be a serious historian. However, Mr Irving still insists he is a respected academic. He says that a document, which he is 80% sure is genuine, suggests that 2.4 million Jews were killed in Poland, but goes on to claim that the gas chamber at Auschwitz was fake. "It was not the centre of the killing operations - it has only become a focus because it is the site that is best preserved. Much of what is shown the tourists there is faked postwar - watchtowers, even the famous gas chamber."
That dovetails nicely with Kosling Conspiracy Theory No.___.
He added: "In my opinion now the real killing operations took place at the Reinhardt camps west of the Bug river. In the three camps here [Sobibor, Belzec, and Treblinka] Heinrich Himmler's men (mostly Ukrainian mercenaries) killed possibly as many as 2.4 million in the two years up to October 1943. There is now nothing to be seen of the Reinhardt camps, neither stick nor stone, so few tourists go there. I have visited all four sites earlier this year."

Pressed as to whether this change undermined his previous stance, Mr Irving replied: "It is a crystallisation of my view." Asked if he now accepts there had been a Holocaust against the Jewish people he said he was "not going to use their trade name". He added: "I do accept that the Nazis quite definitely, that Heinrich Himmler, organised and directed a programme, a clandestine programme, for the liquidation of European Jews ... and that in 1942-43 alone over 2.5 million Jews were killed in those three camps." He added that Hitler was "completely in the dark" about the programme.

Last night Gerry Gable, of the anti-fascist organisation Searchlight, said: "This man is a hardened rightwing extremist and this latest development proves he is determined to pursue his agenda."

Jimmy Carter was unavailable for comment.

Via Guardian Unlimited.