Ever Been Curious About Who Posts at Democratic Underground?

Most people who follow political discussion blogs are familiar with the progressive site Democratic Underground. It is a fetid cesspool where they ridicule everything conservative, often sinking to the lowest level. They agree with the harassment of the military and their families, enjoy inventing new derogatory terms for the objects of their scorn, mostly Sarah Palin and Karl Rove, and of course all things Bush, and are in general a whining bunch of pantywaists. A trip through their message boards will leave you wanting a long, hot shower. Lest you think they are, however, some sort of fringe unit, a lot of Congress critters post there and you will often see the ideas they put forth mentioned in speeches on the floor of the House.

Well, here is a chance to meet one of their members. This weekend Steve Leser appeared on the Fox News show called 'Cashin In', which is a show revolving around business. Mr. Leser apparently had made a bet with Wayne Rogers, yes, the Dr Trapper John from M*A*S*H fame, that unemployment would soon reach 7.5%. The loser would have to wear a dress. Steve was so impressed with himself that he couldn't wait to post an entry on the DU message boards trumpeting his hey, look at me moment. He did, however, forget to mention that soon he would be wearing a dress.



Something tells me that a lot of those who post over DU are waiting in tense anticipation of seeing Steve in dress.

For pure comedy gold, you want to watch this segment in which Steve manages to crack up the entire panel with his downplaying of how the federal government is taking over so much of our day to day lives. There is some pretty sobering comments about the future of healthcare in this country also.


Bear in mind the people comprising this panel are not politicians, but rather people who work on Wall St. or are involved in the private business sector. They deal with facts and figures and not hope and change.

BTW, you just have to love Jonathon Hoening. Anybody who runs an investment firm called Capitalist Pig can't be all bad.

Statement from Austin Suicide Pilot

The suicide pilot in Austin has been identified as Joseph Stack.

Authorities said they have identified the pilot as Joseph Andrew Stack.

Here is what one Joe Stack had to say. Consider this his suicide note. read the whole thing. Here's an excerpt.

As government agencies go, the FAA is often justifiably referred to as a tombstone agency, though they are hardly alone. The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government. Nothing changes unless there is a body count (unless it is in the interest of the wealthy sows at the government trough). In a government full of hypocrites from top to bottom, life is as cheap as their lies and their self-serving laws.

I know I’m hardly the first one to decide I have had all I can stand. It has always been a myth that people have stopped dying for their freedom in this country, and it isn’t limited to the blacks, and poor immigrants. I know there have been countless before me and there are sure to be as many after. But I also know that by not adding my body to the count, I insure nothing will change. I choose to not keep looking over my shoulder at “big brother” while he strips my carcass, I choose not to ignore what is going on all around me, I choose not to pretend that business as usual won’t continue; I have just had enough.

I can only hope that the numbers quickly get too big to be white washed and ignored that the American zombies wake up and revolt; it will take nothing less. I would only hope that by striking a nerve that stimulates the inevitable double standard, knee-jerk government reaction that results in more stupid draconian restrictions people wake up and begin to see the pompous political thugs and their mindless minions for what they are. Sadly, though I spent my entire life trying to believe it wasn’t so, but violence not only is the answer, it is the only answer. The cruel joke is that the really big chunks of shit at the top have known this all along and have been laughing, at and using this awareness against, fools like me all along.

I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well.

The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

Joe Stack (1956-2010)

02/18/2010

Via Twitter.

So he considered Bush a puppet. Let's see the crazies twist this one. Funny, but he doesn't mention tea parties or Obama.

Update: The DUmmies are on to Stack's motivation already.

I find it strange that he keeps referring to the government but never says obama but went out of his way to say bush, would not be surprised if hes deliberately trying to not get labeled a teabagger.

I'm betting 20 bucks hes a teabagger.

Over at Daily Kos we have this gem.

Teabagger terrorist attack on IRS building

After months of threats on the United States government, and government institutions, the Anti-Government forces known as the teabaggers have struck with their first 911 inspired terrorist attack.

AUSTIN, Texas - A low-flying small plane crashed into an office building that houses the Internal Revenue Service in Texas on Thursday, and officials said they were investigating whether it was an intentional act by the pilot.

rogue robot's diary :: :: I don't believe that I am alone in demanding the President use all means necessary to stop these radical terrorists.

Drew at AoSHQ predicts the fallout:

I still think the media is going to try to portray him as a right-wing nut, and specifically a Tea Partier -- since the Tea Party is formally nonpartisan, they can more easily tag him as being a "Teabagger type" and not sweat the actual politics, which seem LaRouchian and/or Paulian.

We're about to see the media double-standard in starkest terms. They would not discuss Amy Bishop's politics -- which were inarguably left-wing and goofy -- but we're going to hear endlessly about this lunatic crank's politics. Which aren't even right-wing -- he's ripping politicians for not doing anything about health care, for example.

It's rare that we have two analogous, directly-comparable cases occur so soon upon the heels of each other. So this will be a remarkably enlightening case study.

BTW, the Kos Kid redacted the headline above before I could get a screengrab. The loony text stands.

Thanks to Drew, Allahpundit and Instapundit for the links.

The FBI has taken down Stack's manifesto but TSG has screenshots of it.

Update: Allahpundit notes a breathtakingly dishonest dispatch from the Washington Post, where the "writer" in question is getting shredded in the comments. Says AP:

Follow the link and note the parts of the manifesto quoted by Capehart. Yes, of course the anti-Bush rhetoric and screeching about health care is omitted, but something even more revealing is omitted too. Here’s how Stack’s manifesto actually ended:

Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well.

The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

Joe Stack (1956-2010)

02/18/2010

And here’s how Capehart quotes the ending:

Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well.

Joe Stack (1956-2010)

02/18/2010
What’s missing?

Capehart will probably be spreading his nonsense on MSNBC tonight.

Further reaction here.

It's safe to say we can officially coin the phrase Tea Party Derangement Syndrome.

Also, via Andy Levy, Stack apparently left a bomb in a vehicle at the airport where he departed (H/T Ace).

Which Version Would The AP Use?

In what I can only classify as a bit of first rate journalism I have to bring this story to you from our good friends over at the Democratic Underground.

There is a post started by Little Star which explains his/her experience at a Healthcare Townhall meeting in MA.

Let me tell you I sat in a room full of far right wing lunatics for over an hour, who could care less about healthcare reform. They only cared about illegal immigrants, their tax $$, killing the elderly, gov’t getting between them and their doctors and the gov’t pulling the plug on people to save $$. They could give two shits about real reform and the entire meeting was pretty much questions from these lunatics. I wanted to ask questions about single payer and lobbyist $$ interests, but that wasn’t to be. No questions about how to fix healthcare or the disarray it is in now and how the reform will address those problems.

The meeting took place at Umass in Worcester, MA and Representatives Neal and McGovern were there to answer questions. They were both very knowledgeable and astute in their answers, but I have to say that I am ashamed that there were so few Democrats in the room. I would say there were three quarters tea baggers and one quarter Dems.

If you have read the Freedom Works tactic sheet, you could recognize the strategy being followed to a T. They were disruptive from the moment the speakers were introduced. They would all yell and scream questions and voice their opposition to everything in unison, trying to create disarray, it was a mob mentality. They even made fake fart noises. They made constant interruptions. They all sighed loudly, booed and were just pretty much nasty people.

I am not sure if I handled it correctly, but I couldn’t bite my tongue. I told all those lunatics that I was there to listen to the answers of questions being asked, not to hear them. At times I yelled back at them that insurance companies are famous for coming between them and their doctors. I also told a lunatic that if she was so worried about paying for illegal immigrants healthcare when they go to the emergency room, then they should be included in healthcare reform. That didn’t go over to well. I filmed the entire meeting and took pictures. I have to say that I think my initial challenge to them did help the meeting maintain some semblance of order (as much as it could) and I think my camera helped as well (they didn't like me filming them). It was bad enough, but truly it was only me and the person that I went with who challenged these creeps.

Quite the tale huh? Sounds serious and this person is risking life and limb to speak truth to power. Well all except for this entry on the thread by somebody else who claims to be there with a screen name of MassachusettsMadam

You didn't help maintain any semblance of order. Your screeching and shoving the camera into the faces of the people around you made us look as bad as they did. Maybe the reason you felt like it was only you and the person with you "challenging" them was that you two were the only ones getting down in the mud with the pigs. If you had stayed quiet and let the security people deal with the situation it would have been all one-sided and they would have been the only ones to be asked to quiet down or be ejected when they continued to heckle the Representatives. As it was, you added your considerable volume to it which kept the security from being able to focus on the real troublemakers. You would not shut up, even when they did, and even when Neal tried to get you to. Which led to you being the one approached by security.

We report you decide. Maybe somebody ought to send this to the White House snitch line.

UPDATE: Okay for the second time today Gateway Pundit has beaten me to the punch, and I swear I am not doing it on purpose. Anyway he has a post which includes a link to newspaper report. Be sure to click on the link and read the comments which support the comments made by MassachuettsMadam, but which is left out of the story.

MSM Reporting Versus Web Postings of Last Night's Democrat Debate

In reading some of the news stories this morning about last night's Democrat debate and comparing it to the posting on various liberal web sites, it seems that they were covering two different debates.

The progressive bloggers are all up in arms because they don't think any questions were asked of the candidates in regards to issues and rather the moderators were merely repeating rightwing talking points and trying to dig dirt on the candidates related to all the various shady characters, lies, and socialist leanings of the two remaining Dems.

The dinosaur media, on the other hand, has a different take such as this AP article which doesn't mention any of those things but rather tells us first and foremost that Hillary thinks Obama can win but there is no mention of what the nutroots are whining about.

In a 90-minute debate, both rivals pledged not to raise taxes on individuals making less than $200,000, and said they would respond forcefully if Iran obtains nuclear weapons and uses them against Israel.

And, of course, the old Democrat standby issue of Social Security.

They differed over Social Security when Obama said he favored raising payroll taxes on higher-income individuals. Clinton said she was opposed, her rival quickly cut in and countered that she had said earlier in the campaign she was open to the idea.

The UPI seems to think that the candidates stressed party unity during the debate with only a passing shot at any of the things the progressives are screaming like five year olds about.

Clinton brought up Obama's relationship with the former pastor of his church who made racist comments about the United States, and Obama's remarks about some Americans being "bitter." Obama spoke of Clinton's exaggeration about the danger she faced in Bosnia in 1996.

The old grey lady, the New York Times did do a story on the sniping and back and forth between the candidates on various shady connections each other had to some of the name and characters which have been brought up, but didn't pin the blame on the moderators like the progressive bloggers are doing. It is however the last paragraph of the Times story that chilled me.

And Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama said that as president, they would execute promises to begin the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq, even if their military commanders at the time advised them that it would be wiser to keep troops on the ground.

So you know what? If the progressive blogs had just kept their mouths shut and moved away from the keyboards most of America wouldn't even know that your candidates had their masks ripped off last night and exposed for the frauds that they are.

But you folks over at Kos, DU, and Huff'N'Puff stay classy and keep hurling around your vulgar language, threats of boycotts and, I imagine by now, have become supporters of capital punishment, at least for George Stephanopoulos and Charlie Gibson.