While the recently passed, but not yet implemented legislation in Georgia which targets the issue of illegal immigrants is
having it's desired effect, their neighbors to the west have also quietly passed their own version, in essence
telling the illegals to keep moving.What gets lost in all the hyperventilating over states passing these measures is the real reason the pro illegal immigrant community is so upset and filing law suits to stop them. It is the realization that while these laws are merely for the most part mimicking already standing federal laws, the states mean to follow through with the enforcement part. Illegals laugh at the DHS and ICE since they have come to realize that political correctness has hobbled the agencies into paralysis.
In Georgia there has been a howl of protests from farmers who are suddenly finding themselves without a work force this year, but maybe, just maybe if some of those unemployed citizens really want to work they should contact these farmers. I am not going to deny that the work is hard especially in the hot weather we have but it all boils down to how serious a person is about providing for their family through a honest days work or if they are content to continue sitting at home drawing that government check each month. There is a large pool of out of work young people this year thanks to Obamanomics and if you can pry them away from their gaming consoles they could fill this shortfall.
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I spent a half-summer after high school picking blueberries and strawberries. Hardest work I've ever done.
The question is this: suppose you could get either citizens or legal immigrants to pick the berries, harvest the lettuce, etc. What would you have to pay them? I assume (likely incorrectly) that the current illegals picking the veggies get minimum wage (minus, er, 'deductions' for all sorts of nonsense). What does a farmer have to pay a young man or woman from the suburbs to come pick the fruit?
Mickey D's is paying $8 to $9 an hour. The big box stores pay part-time teen cashiers about $9 an hour (suburban Chicago). So for a job that is clearly harder work, what does Farmer Jones have to pay?
While the actual cost of food is a small part of the retail price (distribution and packaging are most of it), it's going to raise food prices. Fine, I'll pay it as part of a system that doesn't exploit illegals, but who else will?
There's your problem. Farmer Jones won't pay more to hire, young Americans won't do the work anyway, and consumers want cheap food.
Most ciitizens see the common sense in HB 87. Politicians campaigned on it and then hesitated before passing in Georgia, because the resistance was (a) overstated by the media and (b) resisted by the lower state ag business. There will be an economic impact in terms of cost, but that will be counterbalanced with savings in public services and halting housing value depreciation.
Pass E-Verify everywhere, compel people to work legally, or, work someplace else.
when parents tell their children you can't have it unless you go to work to pay for it, that's when the teenagers will get out and work.
i have to admit where i live in pa, the teens work on the farms, picking crops and such. it's a blue collar area and the parents have that philosophy, you can't have it unless you earn it.
the welfare recipients will not work, period. until that spicket stops, they will not work, nor will their children.
All I can say is "someone" picked and harvested everything here before the USA became riddled with illegals. Who was it? Anyone know? It was poor whites and blacks as far as I know.I know the harvest provided lots of work for poor folks. My brother-in-law and Father picked cotten as young men in Alabama. BTW, these were for the most part citizens of the USA. What is keeping this from happening again? Is ALL the work being done by illegals?
It's also a fact that when I walk into just about any a Jack In-The-Box or McDonalds (and most other fast food franchise stores) nowdays here on the left coast the entire work force is almost always Hispanic. Always!
And don't use the old cliche that these folks are "hiding in the shadows" bullshit. There are no shadows here in Los Angeles. These people are out in the open and don't give a shit who knows or cares. Shadows my ass!
In my teen days these jobs went to school kids as entry level and after hours work. Now it has become Career level work for Hispanic workers. I am talking about folks who come here and make this kind of work their careers. WTF happened to the American entry level jobs? Are we this lazy? I don't believe it but maybe it is true. Something sure as hell changed.
<span>All I can say is "someone" picked and harvested everything here before the USA became riddled with illegals. Who was it? Anyone know? It was poor whites and blacks as far as I know.I know the harvest provided lots of work for poor folks. My brother-in-law and Father picked cotten as young men in Alabama. BTW, these were for the most part citizens of the USA. What is keeping this from happening again? Is ALL the work being done by illegals?
It's also a fact that when I walk into just about any a Jack In-The-Box or McDonalds (and most other fast food franchise stores) nowdays here on the left coast the entire work force is almost always Hispanic. Always! </span><span></span>
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In my teen days these fast-food jobs went to school kids as entry level and after hours work. Now it has become Career level work for Hispanic workers. I am talking about folks who come here and make this kind of work their careers. WTF happened to the American entry level jobs? Are we this lazy? I don't believe it but maybe it is true. Something sure as hell changed.</span>
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And don't use the old cliche that these folks are "hiding in the shadows" bullshit. There are no shadows here in Los Angeles. These people are out in the open and don't give a shit who knows or cares. Shadows my ass!
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It's funny but here in Ontario(Cdn) they import people to pick fruit/veggies in the summer/fall now. I remember as a kid, and teenager that they'd hire us to do it. Then the lawyers, and insurance hit. And they stopped. But I'll tell you something I made damn good money as a teen picking tobacco(was a major crop here - see the song tillsonburg) in the summer, and apples along with pears in the fall.
I won't say that it's laziness there is however a culture that's been taught in school that we are 'better' than jobs like that. And dirty hard work is frowned on. I enjoyed it, damn I burned like nothing but it was nice to be outdoors. And I did mention the lawyers and fuckign insurance that stopped them from hiring us kids from doing the work.
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