Tuesday, November 11, 2008

Confirmed: Huge Obama Surge Sealed Prop 8 Victory

While the ugly antics of the radical gay forces of intolerance continue to focus on Mormons, it's now clear that a huge black turnout for Barack Obama in California resulted in the passage of Proposition 8, outlawing gay marriage.
Supporters of same-sex marriage rights are fuming over California voters' approval of Proposition 8, which would place a ban on such marriages in the state constitution – especially since in other respects voters showed a somewhat left-of-center bent, including a massive victory by Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

Ironically, however, a mathematical analysis of voting and exit poll data indicates very strongly that it was exactly that pro-Obama surge that spelled victory for Proposition 8.

When Proposition 8's passage first became apparent, it was widely assumed that hundreds of thousands of first-time or occasional voters had turned out to vote for Obama, then left the rest of their ballots blank, thus allowing more conservative voters to dominate ballot measures.

In fact, however, there was very little voting drop-off. There are still some late absentee and provisional ballots to be counted, but as of Monday, 10.96 million votes had been tallied in the presidential race and 10.85 million for and against Proposition 8.

The only conclusion, therefore, is that as Obama was running up a 2.6 million-vote victory over Republican John McCain in California – twice the margins by which Democrats won in 2000 and 2004 – a great many Obama voters were also voting for Proposition 8, sponsored by a very conservative religious coalition.

Proposition 8, in fact, garnered 1.6 million more votes than McCain received. And, it's apparent, many of those votes – enough to make the difference – came from African American and Latino voters drawn to the polls by Obamamania.
Hence, the conundrum of the left. Sure, many on the left (and right) support gay marriage, yet it's now evident many do not, and having a week-long public temper tantrum bordering on the violent is not helping the cause.

Ace sums it up.
No, they don't represent the whole of the movement. But they do represent a perpetually seething, decidedly countercultural aspect of the Gay Left that frankly gives the rest of us the shivering douchechills and sometimes makes us want to affirmatively just stick a thumb in their eyes (in political terms).

Not a rational response, that last part. But that is an effect of this ACT-UP type hatred.
Geez, I had forgotten by now the antics ACT-UP to pull back in the early and mid-80s. Wild-eyed and raging, they never much helped their own cause.

But things are different now. The left is used to getting their way, and public rage has been rewarded handsomely. They'll just keep agitating until they found the requisite amount of judges to throw out Prop 8 as unconstitutional, and it helps when you have the Governor on your side and he doesn't even have the spine to condemn nonsense like this.

Barack Obama has stated publicly he does not support gay marriage and those who voted for him evidently feel the same way to a large degree. The losers need to accept that reality, and maybe hope they're not swept up in Obamamania again.
To put it another way, had Obama not been so popular and had voter turnout been more traditional – meaning the proportion of white voters had been higher – chances are fairly strong that Proposition 8 would have failed.

Some gay rights leaders have been bitter that voters from two ethnic groups that have experienced discrimination should vote so strongly to deny gays the right to marry. But they could take solace from the statistical probability that in an election with less excitement and a lower turnout, they'd probably prevail.
They should also take note many blacks and Latinos do not equate the struggles of gays on the same par as the ethnic discrimination they've faced in the past, and resent the comparison.

Meanwhile, the Democrats in the state legislature have decided they don't care about the rights of certain individuals.

Question: If the will of the majority can be ignored on a ballot, can we ignore how they voted for President?

GayPatriotWest has thoughts on the strategy of those demonstrating.
I have my theories on why these people are rallying, but I don’t think it does much good for the cause (or the community) for people to vent in public. It makes it appear to the world that we, at least those rallying, are not ready for marriage.

And what are they so angry about? That the state won’t recognize same-sex unions as marriage? We can still call them marriage on our own. And the Golden State still recognizes and grants privileges to same-sex couples, calling them domestic partnerships instead of marriage.

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